Interview with the ‘Recorder’
In Volume 3 Issue 3 we featured the following book review -
“When I saw the title of this book I was skeptical, but as I read on; that changed.
In 2000 an eighty year old woman, who had been educated in a strict Catholic convent, received words from Christ. She was directed to transcribe these, share them, and remain anonymous.
You might say this book corrects all the misinterpretations carried over 2000 years. These teachings are about reaching higher consciousness to allow the “soul” or “spirit” to override the ego.
The guidance set out in this book, if followed, would create a wonderful world. I recommend you read it.”
Since featuring the book review, with our curiosity piqued we decided to ask the ‘Recorder’ a few questions. Here are her responses -
COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR EARLY LIFE AND LEADING UP TO MEETING CHRIST?
I was born in England in 1919. I am now 92. My father was a lawyer and gave distinguished service in the First World War, being awarded M.C. & Bar. He was appointed to the Colonial Service as a special Peace Judge but died after three months service. I was ten months old. As a result of this, my mother and I lived in straitened circumstances because her pension was greatly restricted due to my father’s brief service.
However, when I was six, my mother sent me to a very lovely Convent in South Devon, and I have always believed, due to much prayer on my mother’s part, the Colonial Service agreed to help us by paying my boarding school fees to the end of my schooling.
I was 20 when the Second World War broke out and during that time I did a variety of jobs, manageress if NAAFI, secretary, youth club leader, and then qualified as Speech & Drama teacher.
It seemed that I was protected from taking any active part in the war. However, there was one experience which I should relate at length.
And so it came about that in 1940, after the terrible disaster of Dunkirk when the French forces were defeated and Hitler planned to invade England, but first of all, he decided to soften her up by obliterating the major cities and causing a national paralysis.
We lived in a small town about 20 miles from one of the cities which came in for a battering by bombs, landmines and incendiaries. On this particular evening, at about 9pm, the Air Raid warning sounded and so my mother and I pulled a thick rug under a heavy mahogany table pushed into an alcove. We thought this would provide shelter if the house was hit.
We had already experienced small air raids, in one of which the German planes had circled so low over our house on the top of a hill, that the swastika was plainly visible as was the pilot. There had been many casualties from the bombing. After this, I discovered that I was no heroine. I was terrified.
On this particular night, I sat with my Bible on my knees, although I could not read it, and I shook uncontrollably, praying repetitively: ‘Please God, don’t let them drop their bombs’. Suddenly, a deep, warm male voice penetrated my mind saying;
‘Your prayer is very foolish. The ’boys’ above you, who have come from Germany, have taken a vow to drop their bombs on your country. So drop them they will, just as your ’ boys ’ have taken a vow to drop their bombs on Germany. Pray, rather. That when they release their bombs, they will do so over bare spots on earth where they will do no harm.
Immediately, all shaking stopped, and I began to pray as I had been directed. No bombs were dropped locally that night, but within the next 15 months, there were three minor raids, probably by young men who found their official targets too dangerous and so they dropped the bombs on Britain on our small town.
This is the miracle. The first raid brought a load of incendiaries which dropped on a small race track on the outskirts of the town. The second raid brought us a load of bombs which were supposed to hit a housing estate but missed it entirely. A landmine directed at a main road landed in a deep swamp. A third raid brought us two large bombs which dropped in a farm field on the boundary of the town.
Some time afterwards, I discovered that the common term applied to the youngsters of the Battle of Britain was ‘boy’ since many of the flying personnel had just left school and had various duties aboard the bombers.
This was an unforgettable experience, still vivid in my recollections. As I grew older and began to understand Jesus’ teachings under Christ’s guidance, I came to see that this message was deeply significant.
In no way did it impute any blame to German or English ‘boy’. They were referred to in equal terms and the message specifically showed me that the ‘boys’ were simply doing a job they had undertaken in order to serve their country. I gained the impression there was no blame attached to what they were doing. And, of course, there was not a hint of any human feeling such as resentment or anger. The message only conveyed encouragement to accept what ‘had to be’ and to rest secure in the knowledge that if I prayed for a solution to the problem which would bring about no harm to anyone – my prayer would be answered. And so it was.
My mother was deeply impressed!
My mother was severely afflicted with arthritis, and when the war was over, her doctor who was about to immigrate to South Africa, suggested she should come also. I accompanied her.
I fell in love with South Africa, with the country and the people. I settled in the Cape in a centre for English schools of a very high standard and taught Speech and Drama. I also fell deeply in love and married Aubrey, a year after coming to South Africa. We had three children and then Aubrey became ill with ulcers. It was decided that he should take early retirement with a minuscule pension and buy a farm.
Within six months we were in serious financial trouble. Everything that could go wrong on a farm – went wrong. Now my poor husband not only had ulcers but experienced a nervous breakdown and received shock treatment. Eventually, after three years on the farm, he felt he could no longer take the strain of the financial worry and decided to get a job in Rhodesia. I was left to manage the farm, although I had no experience whatever. When Aubrey left, my three small children, all under 6, were ill with measles. Our farm was stranded without neighbours when the river came down in spate after a storm.
I have to relate these matters because it was really the fact that I had to manage the farm under very difficult circumstances that led directly to my contact with Christ.
As soon as I returned to the farm from seeing my husband off in the train to Rhodesia, I phoned the vet and asked him to investigate why there was so little milk from our 65 cows. He was shocked when he examined the herd. Only one cow was in calf and had probably jumped the fence to find a bull. Dr. Evans said that our bull had had Lumpy Skin, a dread disease, along with the rest of the herd and had become infertile. There was some doubt as to whether the cows would become pregnant after the disease. With my neighbour farmer’s very kind assistance, I quickly found an excellent Jersey bull.
I was alone on the farm for ten months and was determined to farm correctly and again my successful farmer guided me. I was also fortunate enough to meet a man who told me of the benefit he had received from studying a little book by a Rosicrucian, ’Consciously Creating Circumstances’ which taught that THOUGHT WAS A POWERFUL CREATIVE FORCE, and I began to watch my thoughts, but more especially, I prayed daily for help to cope with 14 African workers and the planting of tomatoes, pumpkins, and taking care of the cows. It was a very happy year of notable achievement but it ruined our marriage.
It was inevitable that whilst I still loved my husband very much, I lost respect for his ability to run the farm properly. He returned at the end of the year and took a position in town and hoped to take control of the farm again but I said that I had better continue since I had learnt so much. My husband naturally felt this keenly. Consequently, there was a very bad atmosphere of resentment in the home. In addition, my husband had become very negative in thought and I had become hot-tempered when speaking to him. As a direct result, again we suffered reverses such as several hailstorms which drove us deeper into debt.
There came the day when I hit bedrock bottom in despair. A New Jersey heifer in calf had been found badly mutilated to provide meat for the workers, a day’s milk yield had turned sour on its way to the factory, and the market returns from my agent for 100 boxes of unblemished perfect tomatoes, showed there was a glut on the market. The price, at which they sold, only covered the cost of the boxes they were packed in. I wept brokenly and asked Jesus to give me comfort from the New Testament. I opened the Bible and one sentence seemed to be written in blackest ink and hit me between the eyes.
I cannot remember the details of the text, but it said in effect: ‘You will be called upon to account for every idle word you utter.’ I had completely forgotten the teaching in the Rosicrucian book that our thoughts and words created our experiences.
No, I immediately interpreted this text according to the Church teaching of punishment and was furious. I am very much aware of my shortcomings and knew that I had thought and said some very nasty things to my husband during our rows. I immediately felt I was being judged for my
anger when I was at my lowest ebb. I threw away my Bible, I could not believe that a loving God could hand out such a pronouncement when a woman was battling day in and day out to save the farm for her husband and children. I discarded Jesus in my thinking and also my religion. I became an agnostic.
However, it was not easy to do this because I was so aware of the wonderful Intelligence at work within plant, stock and human life. I could not escape the thought that there must be a First Cause – but what was its nature? Consequently, I walked the hills of the farm, looking up at the sky, begging for answers: ‘If there is a First Cause, please reveal to me your true nature’. For a year, there was no response until a German Lutheran Minister and his wife, Carl and Ursula, came to see me to tell me about Moral Re-Armament. I knew the wonderful work this group had done in Europe and so I listened to them. They taught me how to meditate and to depend on God for all my needs and expert guidance. I did the meditation but remained silent regarding my non-belief in their God. Many strange events occurred which made me feel I was doing the right thing by meditating. I began to do my utmost to forgive my husband and recover my earlier love for him. There came the morning when I was suddenly desperate to know the true nature of First Cause. I wept brokenly and prayed to be told the truth. Should I return to the Bible, I asked. A Voice answered and told me to sit in the garden quietly on my own – and I would be told. I did this, taking pen and book with me, and as soon as I sat down the instruction began. First of all, I was told that our words are energy forms, WORDS, which take on being in our lives. Secondly, that all parental love we saw in nature and humans was the direct manifestation of God love within us. Thirdly, that God was not an individual but was an immense Power universally and eternally present throughout the galaxies of stars and creation. My husband saw me just after this enlightenment and said he could see the light within me.
Three months, enlightenment again hit me, and with a gasp of surprise, I realised completely and fully, that First Cause, the Divine Power behind creation, was most definitely within me and within all things. This total and absolute realisation gave me an entirely new outlook on life. If God, Infinite Intelligence/Love was within me, then I could do anything I wanted to do with the help of the Divine.
I no longer saw myself as a victim but as co-creator with God.
When a person is fully enlightened, they no longer seek knowledge because they are absolutely certain they have been shown the truth. Such a person moves from a standpoint of faith to that of conviction and total confidence. They KNOW.
After this experience, my life changed radically. I was led to go to a town about 70 miles away and start a business. My husband had to allow me to do this because he had gone to Rhodesia to try to found a new life for us, and had failed. Now it was my turn.
This was in 1961, I was given £144 to start a Personnel Consultants business I had been clearly guided to found; I had to pay for hotel expenses, office, furniture on HP, telephone, advertising, etc. etc
For five years, I lived an exciting life filled with the most amazing miracles – or synchronicities, if you prefer which are now being recounted in a book entitled My Spiritual Journey. All this time, I had walked with ‘God’, Infinite Intelligence, and trusted IT completely for guidance and for the solution to my every problem. I brought my three children to my business cum flat and sent them to boarding schools and the ability to pay for this and their clothes and everything else duly came after following clear guidance.
My husband had said that he could not offer anything towards the children’s upkeep. The way opened for me to take on this huge responsibility when I was offered a very large Speech and Drama Studio which I attended to in the afternoons. Then I ran into big trouble. There is no need to go into detail, it would take too long. But I had also taken on some credit bureau work which I found distasteful. So, as always, I asked for guidance and three times I woke in the morning and felt I was being told to give it up. However, it was contributing a large amount to my very necessary income. Finally, the call to give up the work was so powerful, I had to do so.
I had a strong feeling that I should be doing spiritual work of some kind in my free time. But nothing came to mind, despite repeated requests for guidance. For the very first time, I felt I was entirely on my own. One evening, I was particularly depressed and desperate. I burst into tears. Weeping, I was suddenly moved to call on Jesus to help me, something I had not done since the episode on the farm which caused me to become agnostic. But now, again, I was desperate, I would give Jesus another chance! I cried out:
‘Jesus, please lend the power of your word to my prayers. That I may know what I am supposed to be doing!’
And immediately, I felt his Presence.
HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS CHRIST SPEAKING TO YOU?
I was overwhelmed and then frightened. Had I become self-delusional?
Jesus gave me a text to look up by way of confirmation that he was truly with me.
John. ch.16. v20
My state of mind was now even more disturbed. What would I find? If the text had absolutely no bearing on what was happening at this moment, then I would know that I was nothing but a fanciful woman given to day dreams. The last five years would no longer carry the strong stamp of truth as they had done in my mind. I had believed in the blessings and assistance of God implicitly. What, I wondered, had been real and what was illusionary?
I still had my Bible, untouched, on my bookshelves and I lifted it and searched for the text with heart beating.
I found John, then ch.16 and read verse 20: ‘Truly, truly, you will weep and lament but the world will rejoice; you will be sorrowful but your sorrow will turn into joy Yes, I thought, it was true, I had certainly been weeping and lamenting that I was receiving none of the guidance I had previously received but now my sorrow would be turned into joy if this proved to be truly Jesus with me.
21 When a woman is in travail, she has sorrow because her hour has come, but when she is delivered of the child, she no longer remembers the anguish, for joy that a child is born into the world.
22 So you have sorrow now, but I will see you again and your hearts will rejoice, and no one will take your joy from you. Yes, I had sorrow now but if it was true that Jesus was with me here in this room most certainly, no one would ever take this joy from me!
23 In that day, you will ask nothing of me, truly, truly, if you ask anything of the Father He will give it to you in my name. How true! at that time, when I was separated from Jesus, I asked nothing of Him after the event in 1959, but I still asked of the Father (First Cause) and my request was certainly given me eventually - I was given enlightenment in 1961.
24 Hitherto, you have asked nothing in my name; ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full. And now here was Jesus sitting in the room with me and telling me that if I now asked, I would receive that my joy might be made full!
25 I have said this to you in figures (metaphors): the hour is coming when I shall no longer speak in metaphors but will tell you plainly of the Father. And here was a wonderful promise. Jesus would tell me plainly of the Father! Now, from 1959-1961, I had been begging and praying that I would be shown the TRUE NATURE of FIRST CAUSE! Now here was Jesus saying that he would tell me plainly of the Father which, for me, meant he would give me the truth concerning the true nature of First Cause! First I had received enlightenment and knew within my soul that the Father was Universal Intelligence/Love, now I believed I would be given the details. Anyone who has read CHRIST’S LETTERS in the book CHRIST RETURNS, REVEALS STARTLING TRUTH will agree that this is exactly what Christ has done.
26 In that day, you will ask in my name; and I do not say to you that I will pray the Father for you, for the Father himself loves you……… This obviously meant that I would understand the truth concerning the Father and that I would have absolute confidence in asking for anything! HOW COULD I NOT BELIEVE!
THAT JESUS WAS IN THE ROOM WITH ME And, at that time, I did not realise that in two weeks time, metaphorically, I would be pregnant with a child inspired by Jesus himself. Bringing it into being made me extremely happy and fulfilled.
THESE SIX VERSES WERE ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE IN EVERY WAY! I never had cause to doubt the reality of Christ’s presence and telepathic speech to me in the future.
When I had finished reading, I dropped on my knees in reverence but I felt lifted to sit down and I asked Jesus what kind of work I could do to help people understand that the dogma of the Churches was absolutely wrong. He said he would not tell me that evening because he wanted me to reserve a week-end solely for meditation, ten days hence. I was told to remove the plug of my telephone and ask my children not to come from boarding school to visit me.
I asked about the White Brotherhood and Jesus confirmed its existence. I asked for messages for four people important to me and as the replies were given, I felt strong gusts of love sweep through me. This was the final proof that evening; that Jesus was with me. All the messages proved to be absolutely accurate.
When the special week-end arrived, I did as I had been commanded and started meditating early on Saturday morning and continued throughout the day until 10pm. Eventually, I had felt my head blocked as though with cotton wool. I realise now that my mind had been so filled with elevating thoughts that the normal mundane level of my consciousness had been blocked. Not only this, when I meditated, I went into a profound silence, all mental activity stilled, and so my consciousness was being raised to higher spiritual levels. At the time, however, I had no understanding of what was taking place.
The following morning, I woke early and made myself coffee which I placed on my bedside table, and then lay back on the pillows, and immediately I felt as though my mind, my consciousness, was in a lift, rising quite rapidly, until, on closing my eyes, It seemed I was in a beautiful world of very, very pale blue and I felt ecstatic! The joy that Jesus had promised me – was mine! I remained in this wonderful condition until 10 am when my children came knocking at my door and I had to let them come in. However, they listened and settled down to doing their own thing, and I retired to my small bedroom to continue meditating.
I felt contact with Jesus and asked what kind of spiritual work I should do. I was told to start a correspondence course and advertise it free of charge, in the Sunday Times. This was now 1966 and the newspaper had an excellent Personal Column. I asked what I should write about. Jesus answered promptly, giving me a text: ‘The kingdom of Heaven is at hand’. That was in 1966 – and now in 2011, basically Christ’s message has remained the same. In his Letters, he tells us exactly how to overcome our egos in order to become the loving, considerate beings we need to be, to be able to live comfortably and joyously in the high, pure, loving spiritual consciousness of the Kingdom of Heaven.
HOW WERE YOU CHOSEN TO BECOME RECORDER?
There have been certain circumstances in my life, such as my birth chart, which have made me wonder if I was born to do this task and was also prepared by the strange conditions of my education and upbringing. I lived a life entirely free of any male companions or relatives until I was 22.
HOW DID YOU RECORD WHAT WAS BEING TOLD TO YOU.
When I reached the age of about 77, I felt a tremendous need to get a computer and learn how to use it. Out of the blue, my son offered me his old computer and a woman advertised lessons in Word Perfect. When the time came for me to type the words and thoughts being dictated to me by Christ, I was able to use my computer competently.
When the Letters were completed in 2001, I was approached by three dear women who persuaded and helped me to create a website. This was exactly right as Christ had clearly told me to give his Letters to the public free of charge. They appeared in book form about five years later, as a result of petitions by readers to protect the copyright of the Letters. I placed a page on my website www.christsway.co.za requesting donations to print and publish the Letters and within three weeks had sufficient money to print the book in English and Spanish. Two years ago, I was approached by the Editor of Editions Interkeltia, asking permission to translate the book into French and publish it. I gave him permission and was so pleased with his work that I asked him to undertake the translation, printing and publishing of the book in as many languages as possible. In this short period, he has completed translations and assisted translators to publish their own works. There are four languages in print and three translations ready for publication.
WHY ARE YOU ANONYMOUS?
I was told my Christ to remain anonymous because books have been written by people offering high spiritual knowledge imparted by Christ but the media has created so much publicity for the author that the work itself becomes secondary to the writer. Christ wanted his LETTERS to be generally known and Christ himself regarded as the author. And this is how the book has been presented, received and acknowledged by the public. The French translation is into its third edition in two years.
I have just received this message from one of my correspondents. It was meant to remind me of Christ’s words to encourage me as I compile this interview. I would like to share it with my readers:
With all my love I send you this little passage from Letter 6, on page 275: This is Christ speaking to potential readers in his Letter 6.
“I want you to know that when you embark on this journey in true sincerity, I will be at your side in every eventuality. It is my dearest wish that you will come to know that I am with you and that I am sending you support and strength in you quest to become unified with your ‘Divine Reality’.
I have received so many messages confirming that the presence of Christ is felt when people meditate or when they have a problem which needs resolving. This promise is true.
As Epilogue, I would like to add that my husband and I were divorced, after which he withdrew into a quiet place and studied the Teachings of Jesus. He was wonderfully transformed into a dear, loving, thoughtful man and we were sincerely and deeply re-united in mind and heart before he died three years later.
When Jesus first came to me, I asked for messages for four people. Aubrey was one of them and Jesus replied: ‘Do not worry about him. I am looking after him.’ And he was looked after in the most amazing ways.
3rd Anniversary Article
Getting out of the way!
Strange how our minds work. It’s hard to believe that we have been publishing True Blue Spirit for three years, yet those first issues still seem like a dream.
In the early stages of True Blue Spirit’s inception I remember a vision I had during dream time. I saw an arm reaching out from the East Coast and another from the West Coast. They clasped hands in the center of Canada. I took this to mean that eventually True Blue Spirit would reach right across the country.
In spite of my analytical mind getting in the way, this vision has indeed come to pass. Being a member of Magazines Canada has played a large role; and yet many times when I first felt nudged to join—I shook it off. Perhaps I felt it was too much of a corporate type entity for our warm fuzzy magazine. But what I found was a group of wonderful people, just like our readers and contributors, who wanted to help us get the True Blue Spirit stories out there.
We can have all the visions and synchronicities in the world, but if we don’t push our misconceptions, doubts and other assorted garbage out of the way they aren’t worth a pinch of salt. The assistance we’ve received through Magazines Canada’s distribution, training and mentorship programs has been invaluable.
Yes, it’s been three years, and I am still learning to get out of my own way! Thank goodness for the patience of spirit.
Keep well.
Dorothy











